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I went out for an early spring ride, and as you will see the dust was minimum. I was video taping this by driving with one hand, and camera in the other because my go pro wasn't working (a topic all it's own)

Today was the first day in Months that it got above 50 degrees, so we took advantage of it, but as you can see the trails were still in winter mode.

Right around 3:42 you can see where I was spared a pretty cold splashing (thank you windshield) The control factor was a bit difficult on a couple occasions, in fact I thought I was going to roll it on a couple turns when the Ace decided NOT to turn due to the icy conditions. But it was still fun to get out!

 

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Very awesome video thank you!!! Ahhhh Michigan my home away from home! Can't wait till the salt is off the roads and I am back there every weekend for riding season again since my county I live in happens to be anti atv with no trails or routes! I bought a brand new Sportsman 400 last year traded it a month ago for the Ace. Put over 3000 miles on my 400 last year can't wait to see how many I can get logged on my new Ace this year! I live to ride and ride to live hehehe! Happy riding to all!
 

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Very awesome video thank you!!! Ahhhh Michigan my home away from home! Can't wait till the salt is off the roads and I am back there every weekend for riding season again since my county I live in happens to be anti atv with no trails or routes! I bought a brand new Sportsman 400 last year traded it a month ago for the Ace. Put over 3000 miles on my 400 last year can't wait to see how many I can get logged on my new Ace this year! I live to ride and ride to live hehehe! Happy riding to all!
I'm in the same boat. The nearest legal trail for me to ride is 1.5 hours north of me. Also, because of this extra hard and long winter my patients is running thin waiting for a nice weather ride. We have piled on the miles in the last opulence years too, and if work allows I will do it again this summer.
 

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I'm in the same boat. The nearest legal trail for me to ride is 1.5 hours north of me. Also, because of this extra hard and long winter my patients is running thin waiting for a nice weather ride. We have piled on the miles in the last opulence years too, and if work allows I will do it again this summer.
I love winter and all ice fishing, snowmobiling, snowboarding, plowing, and just the change in seasons in general but this winter has been so brutally cold that I didn't get to do much of that. I'm tough and all but I am not into having to bundle up to the point of not being able to move just to go out and play. I own my own business so I take weekends off to play and enjoy life. I am hoping within a month I will be heading north and hitting the trails. I play on doing a lot of camping this year since I will have more storage room on the Ace and this will prevent me from having to trailer home everyday in the wee hours of the morning just to turn around a few hours later and head back up north. I ride from sun up till at least midnight just because I love riding so much and logging on the miles plus summer seems so short because I work so much that time of year. Gotta get out and enjoy it whenever I can.
 

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Ok I got a question for all of my fellow MI riders. Do they keep the atv trails open year round and not close them for spring break up? I can't seem to find any information on the MI trail websites on this. I ride mostly in the U.P. in case it makes a difference. Any information on this would be greatly appreciated. Thanks!!!
 

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Stick to 50" or less trail systems and your fine. Getting into the multi purpose routes and it's a bit sketchy. I copied this from another forum, because I have seen the question asked several times. I will post the forum site as well.

Groomed snowmobile trails are illegal for quads in the winter, UNLESS the trail is running on an ORV route (as many of them do). In that case, it is actually legal to be on it with a quad or other ATV. BUT.....it's not a good idea. The sledders go upwards of 50 - 60 mph (sometimes faster), and they pose a significant danger to ORVs on the trail.

Also - as a general rule, it really makes for angry sledders and causes user conflicts when they see quads on the trail. Even though quads can legally be on an ORV route all year, it is much more courteous and safe to just stay off the trails in the winter.

ATV Offroad Club of Michigan - Offroad Today.

DNR - ORV/ATV Trail Maps
 

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Stick to 50" or less trail systems and your fine. Getting into the multi purpose routes and it's a bit sketchy. I copied this from another forum, because I have seen the question asked several times. I will post the forum site as well.

Groomed snowmobile trails are illegal for quads in the winter, UNLESS the trail is running on an ORV route (as many of them do). In that case, it is actually legal to be on it with a quad or other ATV. BUT.....it's not a good idea. The sledders go upwards of 50 - 60 mph (sometimes faster), and they pose a significant danger to ORVs on the trail.

Also - as a general rule, it really makes for angry sledders and causes user conflicts when they see quads on the trail. Even though quads can legally be on an ORV route all year, it is much more courteous and safe to just stay off the trails in the winter.

ATV Offroad Club of Michigan - Offroad Today.

DNR - ORV/ATV Trail Maps
Ok thanks a million! Yeah I would never go in the winter because that would mean trailering in the salt for me which I will not do. I was just curious because as it warms up and the rain washes the salt off the roads I want to get out as soon as I can but I wasn't sure about the spring break up as far as if they closed down for a bit till the ground firms up. Thanks again!
 

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Im looking forward to seeing more 50 in trails in MI so I can decide if ace is for me. Id love to see st helen or little o in baldwin to see how ace does.
 

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Im looking forward to seeing more 50 in trails in MI so I can decide if ace is for me. Id love to see st helen or little o in baldwin to see how ace does.
This machine will see both those trail systems. St helen is our favorite spot to ride. It is like a hub that connects a bunch of different trails. And it offers 50", places to go wide open, and even a nice little sand rec area.. And one of the most ATV friendly towns in lower michigan.
 

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This machine will see both those trail systems. St helen is our favorite spot to ride. It is like a hub that connects a bunch of different trails. And it offers 50", places to go wide open, and even a nice little sand rec area.. And one of the most ATV friendly towns in lower michigan.
Id love to see how it does in the tight spots where the two trees are crowding trails super hard. Thats main thing Im concerned with. I know its narrower and not as long but I bought 50 in rzr last summer thinking it would fit on these trails and it doesnt. I ended up selling with 100 miles on it. Im concerned ace could be same thing. Maybe steering wheel is not for these trails? Id go buy one now if it did. I was on little O yesterday on my scrambler and had a blast, some snow yet but not deep and lots of downed trees to climb over. Back of my mind I was thinking, id love all day comfort of ace. Scrambler rocks, but man was i sore.
 

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Id love to see how it does in the tight spots where the two trees are crowding trails super hard. Thats main thing Im concerned with. I know its narrower and not as long but I bought 50 in rzr last summer thinking it would fit on these trails and it doesnt. I ended up selling with 100 miles on it. Im concerned ace could be same thing. Maybe steering wheel is not for these trails? Id go buy one now if it did. I was on little O yesterday on my scrambler and had a blast, some snow yet but not deep and lots of downed trees to climb over. Back of my mind I was thinking, id love all day comfort of ace. Scrambler rocks, but man was i sore.
Worried about getting squeezed on tight trails? Check this video out.
There is one spot on that trail where there is a tight squeeze between a stump and a rock, you'll see in the video where I have to back up a little and take another angle on it. I was on that trail again just yesterday, and the guy in front of me had a Grizzly 400. He said it felt like a tight fit even for him. Both him and the guy behind me were impressed with how the ACE got through there. The shorter wheel base makes all of the difference.

Skip to 5:00 for the squeeze. Ignore the squeaking, that's not audible to the driver, it's coming through the frame from the swing arm bushings.

 

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Yeah. Just to be clear, the guy in the video was 52" wide. Not sure if that was a Grizzly or not. That was my first time taking the ACE on that trail.
I was also referring to a second trip that I do not have video of, where the Grizzly 400 in front of me said it felt tight to him.
 

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As much as the steel wheels and stock tires disgust me, I'll prolly keep on as I believe 48 in will be vital if I pull trigger. In your vids you encounter some real tight spots which it does well, but in MI its like nonstop like that with tight turns that are banked. We have so many trees.
 

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I managed to keep mine down to 50" front and 50.5" rear. I can't do the steel wheels because there are way too many rocks, and I bend steel wheels and get bead leaks.
 
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